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the fiscal cliff. something that could crush the consumer. all of which means it's a very confusing moment. we want to stick with best of breed that can come bouncing back whenever our leaders reach a deal. companies like ascena retail group, asna. formally known as dress barn. we've been fans because they have a terrific model. own multiple niche brands, maurice's for 20-something women, dress barn, appeals to a more middle aged woman, and charming shops, giving them two successful plus-sized chains. i believe in this deal because they have a record of making transitions work. the stock got slammed today, falling 4.3%, they delivered a four-cent earnings beat, revenues were in line, but still rose 48% year-over-year. and they reaffirmed their guidance for 2013, numbers slightly less than what some on wall street were expecting. what happened here, i think, is the stock ran 35% for the year. expectations got to elevated for some, well, they say they were disappointed. let's talk to the president and ceo of ascena retail group to learn more about the quarter and the profits. welcome back to
issues around the fiscal cliff. we think it is really important that they get something done because, obviously, if tax rates go up on middle-class americans come next month, it will be bad for those middle-class americans, it is will be bad for our states, and we're concerned about both the fiscal side and the economic growth side. >> susie: so talk to us a little bit about what kind of deal you would like to see. what were you proposing to the president? >> let's put it this way, if money is just shifted from the federal government to the states, that's not really saving anything. and the president understands that. we think it is really important. recognizing if there are cuts in funds, there ought to be a corresponding reduction in some of the requirements that are put on the states. so we really, as much as anything else, wanted to make sure that our voices are heard and that as decisions are made, whether it is about taxes, whether it is about spending cuts, that they be done equitably and with our input. >> susie: your state is headquarters to many large american companies. an
the fiscal cliff generally leads to something else, which is significant uncertainty. and whether it is delaware or whether it is any other state, one of the things that is most important to us is having business leaders have some kind of certainty about what the ground rules are going to be. not just for the next three months, by the way. but really for the next several years. they're more likely to invest, more likely to hire their next employee if they know what the game looks like. what the landscape looks like. and so as much as anything else, we think having that certainty, having that clarity on taxes and spending, is really important. >> susie: you said you are also very concerned about where growth is going to come from. did you discuss that with the president, won did he say, aside from tax increases and spending cuts? >> one of the things we specifically talked about was infrastructure. it didn't used to be that roads and bridges were democrat or republican. we need to continue to invest in our infrastructure, a strong transportation network, water, sewer, broadband and
nowheresville in terms of negotiations on a fiscal cliff deal. take a listen. >> until we hear something from the republicans there's nothing to drafrt, so we can get things done quickly. i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it before christmas but it done. be >> we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the balanced approach that he promised the american people. >> and then there was this moment here at the white house at the press briefing where press secretary jay carney was pressed by reporters to say what it was that speaker boehner and the president were talking about during their meeting here at the white house on sunday. the reporters wanted to know if the specifics being discussion skused in that conversation are separate from the specifics being offered in the public dialogue. take a listen to what jay carney said. >> i'm trying to be incredibly opaque about the distinction. look. >> it's working. >> it's working. >> so at least he's man enough to admit he doesn't want to give us the answer to th
, andrew. >> let's talk about the fiscal cliff. i want to talk to you specifically about something else going on in the washington. you were no fan of the president in the run up to the election and there were so many people on wall street who frankly were not fans and were outspoken about it. now, there seems to be a move afoot within washington and some level on wall street to try to mend those fences. what's going on? can you take us behind the scenes a little bit? >> i think it's pretty clear we're supposed to be one country. we have a new president, we have a four year run and i think people have to find some common ground. i think the president is reaching out pretty aggressively in the context of trying to make connections to the other side to get a budget deal done which i think he's really very committed to wanting to do. >> when you look at the election results, and you look at where we are in this conversation about the fiscal cliff and raising taxes, do you say to yourself, that he has a mandate to raise tax rates or not? >> well, geez, i think he thinks he does in a certain
going over the fiscal cliff and something technical comes out in the unemployment rate drops for some reason. ashley: let's hear from the man himself, mr. bernanke. >> good afternoon. it has been about three and a half years since the economic recovery began. the economy continues to expand at a moderate pace. unfortunately however unemployment remains high. about 5 million people, more than 40% of the unemployed have been without a job for six months or more. millions more who say they would like full-time work an have only found part-time employment or stop looking entirely. the conditions in the job market now show waste of human and economic potential. return to broad-based prosperity will require sustained improvement in the job market which in turn requires stronger economic growth. meanwhile apart from some temporary fluctuations largely reflected swings in energy prices, it is likely to run at or below the federal market committee's 2% objective in coming quarters over the longer term. against a macroeconomic backdrop includes high unemployment and subdued inflation, the fomc
to our investors, so we see the fiscal cliff thing as a temporary roadblock but not something that...it won't stop us from hiring at this moment." one bright spot - according to analysts at mesirow, housing, expecially new housing, in many markets is being driven by investors purchasing homes. another indicator - remodeling. people are putting money into their homes more now. carpeting, appliances, and contract work all spreads the wealth. thank you chuck. still ahead, stocks that make the "must own" list for 2013, right after the break. here is a question a lot of people are asking themselves this time of year - how's your equity portfolio looking? little anxious about making a move? the people at zacks investment research are looking ahead through 2013 to see where the opportunities might lie. let's talk with john blank. he is the chief equity strategist, the big-picture guy. so, let's talk generalities. bulls or bears, who will be doing most of the running in 2013? > > in my camp, i am a bull, and w i think we can get a 10% return out of next year. > very good. how about through
, but even a company that is taking advantage of all this is worried about the fiscal cliff. this is not something just for nerds in the beltway. >> big time. we ridge just saying that very thing. >> people don't understand how important this is. >> nerds because of the glasses? dave: people inside the beltway are the nerds. they are the ones doing business making things. they are the heart blood of the economy. thank you very much. >> there's no-deal in sight. what about the talking? we head to dec for the latest. dave: first trust adviser chief economist brian westberry has been bullish on this economy for a long time even though we are growing at a slower rate. why is he continuing to be bullish. what is it about the economy he thinks is doing so well? we will last coming right up. [ male announcer this is the a of knowing what you're made of. why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor out viagra. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side e
impact the defense industry. >> well, the fiscal cliff would just be something that would be disastrous for defense. what you have are all these cuts of sequestration that are not tied to any national security plan or program. these would just be across the board with no plan involved. you have not only the major defense contractors but the entire supply chain involved. >> personalize it for us, dawn. what would it do specifically to your company? >> well, for us, we're a supplier not only to defense but also in the commercial markets, energy, and medical. it has already caused this uncertainty, roadw uncertainty, a reduction in the amount of work we're doing, and it's prevented us from hiring in some of our plants. >> you're holding back, then. you're holding back on hiring, waiting to see how this thing plays itself out. presuming they don't go over the cliff, they come to some agreement, does that mean you would hire more workers? >> right now it's very frustrating that we don't have issues decided here. so, yes, we have plants that can be ramping up to supply in the defense industry
hand on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner's facing something of a revolt within gop's ranks over his budget plan. we'll have the latest from washington when we come back. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff have ran to something of a holt. john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his bung budget plan. another shanghai surprise. china's mainland market surge nearly 3%. more austerity. plus, austerity measures are hitting european consumers. retail sales in october fall much more than expected. september also revised sharply to the downside. >>> it was a flat day really for european stocks, slightly negative for u.s. stocks yesterday. we are a little bit higher. the dow is currently some 43 points above fair value. the nasdaq is around four points above fair value. the s&p 500 at the moment is around about four points above fair value. european stocks are up half a percent earlier. we have come off those highs. eurozone pmis a little bit better than expected. but still deeply in contraction territory. uk services pmis dipped
they have been hearing about higher taxes. i do think with all of the media coverage of the fiscal cliff, consumers are starting to recognize that there is something going on. i think people are more aware. i still think those people feel like something will get done at the last minute. i think they are aware that there are some risks out there. melissa: michelle, you are fantastic. thank you so much. >> thank you. take care. adam: some people think investing sometimes is too good to be true. what is the government's (in nailing steve cohen? charlie: i do not think people are focused on the fiscal cliff. they will not be focused until you see the market sell off. the market believes there will be a deal. until the market trade-off -- adam: we have a guest who will be talking about that a little later on as we get closer to the end of the year. the investigation is still underway. charlie: when you see the market trade-off you watch people freak out. interesting thing about steve cohen, there is no more remarkable trader out there than this guy. say what you want to about him. if you look
. another day where the markets are waiting for some clear sign on something. whether it's the fiscal cliff, the fed meeting. what are the proceed right now? >> we've got bob from s&p capital iq. steven wood and gordon shallop. great to have you all on the show. you normally get the priority of speaking first. what are you doing right now? >> right now we're anticipating for volatility. we knew it was going to be a volatile fourth quarter. there's a lot of policy induced volatility. that said, the economy in the united states has not changed that much. it's grinding along. that recovery we've been talking about for a long time. so it's measurably positive, not robustly positive. that's kind of doing battle with just about offsetting some of the policy risk. >> the fear is all that changes if we go over the cliff. >> it would. right now the forecast is there's some compromise. there's a short-term compromise. they buy time. and they use that to get the silhouette of a grand bargain. if they use the time well, the markets could like that. if we do go off the cliff, that's 8% of gdp. >> what's
the fiscal cliff and delores wants your thoughts on where do you stand on this whole fiscal cliff, how will it play out. >> congress better get off its duff and do something. and i think that finally the pressure will be on us. but they always do it right to the last, you know, minute. but i think it's got to happen or they're going to be ousted from their hallowed political seats. >> tom: you could argue in the three years you've been away from the nbr anchor desk congress hasn't done a lot to address the fiscal situation. >> no it's just ridiculous. i mean these are our elected representatives and they have got to pay a little more attention to those that got them in the office. and they're arguing amongst themselves without much care about the people they represent. >> tom: a lot of those folks are retiree, we have a question from anita asking what is the investing or financial planning lesson paul use most during retirement? >> well, the number one is hope i can live my life to the last and still have enough capital to keep me going. and a lot of investors are running up against th
about the fiscal cliff, that is obvious. everybody is sitting back and waiting to see if washington can actually get something done. if political agendas can get it aside and think about the devastation that probably occurred with the fiscal cliff. the spring selling season begins in late january. we have been the bright spot in the economy. our industry are creating jobs, we're coming back in the early stages of a recovery so the fiscal cliff january 1 would have a huge impact on the country, and impact on our business, and we have our fingers crossed and are very hopeful washington can get something done and we'll have to see. but if they don't, there is no question there will be a little bit of time until things settle down when the buyers will hit the sidelines. liz: will it derail the tentative recovery here? >> right now we are three weeks away from this fiscal cliff date and we're still selling houses. i don't think it derails it, but there could be a pause until things get worked out. liz: part of it is being discussed, and that is the possible elimination or at least the cuttin
as the fiscal cliff. were talking about using something is coming, you think that is good news. >> there is always the inside game and the outside game. they will talk to their base and their constituents. they have to get something by the 18th which is next tuesday so they can vote an on it. the matter what it is, something will be coming out of there. nicole: something will be better than nothing out of washington. that is the latest. he sounds pretty happy at least at the moment. today he is positive. tracy: here is a glass half full. we will take it. ashley: thanks, guys. looking at the old tea leaves of what is going to happen with speaker boehner taking the house floor with 20 days until we fall off the fiscal cliff he says it is time for president obama to get serious. really? rich edson in d.c. for all of this. >> actually somebody has to be positive, right? in d.c. we are not getting it right now. sources are looking at these meetings and saying there is essentially no move in it the last couple of weeks or so. house speaker john boehner confirms that on the house floo
this anticipation of the fiscal cliff and beyond? >> i think ben is on to something in terms of the effectiveness of it. over the last few years, monetary policy was a catalyst to move money into the marke on a capital allocation basis. you saw the jolt in the market, then it plateaued. heading into next yeerar, monety policy becomes part of the base. the jolt is fiscal policy. a little transparency on that front. the big switch is on. i think they going to use more words than action. >> they've been using that very effectively. and it actually moves markets. just the language. >> he didn't buy one bond. he said three words and spanish and italian yields drops three basis points. >> what were the three words? >> whatever it takes. >> that's good. markets like whatever it takes, i guess. rick santelli, loeet's talk job. that's tomorrow. some noise in this report. early thanksgiving, hurricane sandy. is this rally at the end of the day having anything to do with any anticipation of the jobs report? what are you looking for? >> no, i don't think so. we're looking for almost exactly half. we had 171,
and fiscal cliff was mentioned in the release. it's become something carl that we are expecting in every release that we see. >> we do have a couple of seconds to point out that last night in cable fax awards, two nights ago, you were named to the hall of fame. >> yes, thank you very much. kind of proud, i dedicated by admission to mark haines who put me on tv. when david and joe would do "squawk box," he put me on tv. and mark was inducted into the hall of fame last year, because he said there's room for like guys that were bald and fat. right then i was trading at 2.15. now it's a point lower. >> no free passes. >> well deserved, congratulationings from all of us. you're going to stick arounder for lululemon. >> speaking of which, coming up, the ceo of lululemon will talk to us about the holiday season. and apple, a slide back into u.s. territory. [ male announcer ] when a major hospital wanted to provide better employee benefits while balancing the company's bottom line, their very first word was... [ to the tune of "lullaby and good night" ] ♪ af-lac ♪ aflac [ male announcer ] fi
to discuss the fiscal cliff tug-of-war is a democrat from new york state, senior house of the financial services committee, representative meeks, good to have you with us. let's turn to entitlement spending. that is of high importance in solving the fiscal cliff negotiations and in a longer term way bringing the country to a sustainable fiscal course. what specific changes to medicare or medicaid would you be willing to imbraes today right new that would slow the growth in our medical spenting? >> i'm not going to debate the specifics on television. i think that what the president is doing, is clear that he has indicated that we have to raise the tax rate. the tax rates, bush tax cuts, was temporary in nature. >> that's not what i asked. i asked what specific would you be willing to do to address what is clearly the number one thing that is going to blow the hole in not only the economy but federal spending, federal budget over the next generation. >> what we have to do is negotiate. everything should be on the table. i think the president indicated that everything would be on the table
to look at because they're going to solve the fiscal cliff issue, but after it is done you will see some serious selling pressure here. david: we will come back to you when the s&p futures close to get a peek into what might happen tomorrow. liz: what an interesting day with bizarre behavior with the market. senior managing director joining us along with profits investors and portfolio manager. you have been a little bit more bearish all along, but i guess any downside to what you see the fed announced today, people worried about tying into the 6.5% unemployment, are we missing something here? >> the fed is being way too transparent. liz: do you think he talks too long? >> he had the stage and everybody will be paying attention to every utterance, but the half-life is getting shorter and shorter. this one is an hour or two. so far the annual yearly high. i expect that we'll still be the annual high, and i expect we will have challenges from here because the fed is giving up the ghost on the political forces fixing anything substantive on the fiscal side and giving up in terms of the econ
that that is the biggest problem facing us. either go over the cliff or come up with something with real solutions. >> rich peterson, let me get your take on earnings in 2013. we know the expectations on the economy if we go over the fiscal cliff, that the economy will see a contraction of a couple of percentage points. where are you on earnings for 2013, what are your expectations? >> maria, look at the s&p numbers, looking for a slow single digit percentage gains. for this period of the fourth quarter looking for gains in telecommunications and financials. i think the critical part, investors ought to be very keen just to weigh in the risk, you know, and the fact they had a very rewarding year in 2012, we were up about 12% on the s&p 500. earnings will be very much held captive by the fact that the uncertainty not only about the fiscal cliff but debt ceiling. >> very quickly, john, we're lose altitude in this market rapidly. what do you make of this, and what are you expecting to close here? >> just shows you how fragile our markets r.one comment out of washington can take profits off the table intraday.
talked is all these companies are fast tracking dividends to be the fiscal cliff clock. is that spurring people to get off of the sidelines and trade stocks? they see any change or trend? >> reality on something like that, and the entire market was well aware of where obama was headed and once he won the election it was a reaction in the market. the client base is difficult to make the right decision, you don't know what the facts are. will be a question later on. there has not been a lot of trading in dividend stocks and because of the reason for that, an overriding concern what is going on with the fiscal cliff. people waiting to find out what is going to happen. liz: from your perspective and you guys are among the biggest, you're not seeing people jumping in and saying these companies are paying out early dividends. >> as far as our client buying or selling, no. the rationale is simple. you don't know what the rate is going to be an don't know what your tax is going to be and if that is the reason you bought the stock to begin with it might make sense if it goes up 5%, won't makes se
credit could go over the fiscal cliff. >> when swind placed on the surface of the earth, you can get something like 20 times the amount of power that civilization now uses. >> reporter: ken caldera authored a new study that claims wind is the way. >> the wind you can't power civilization on wind today has to do with economics and engineering. >> reporter: he points for history. >> one of the reasons why fossil fuels are cheap is that they have received large subsidies from the federal government. >> reporter: right now wind power gets a subsidy, too. $1 billion a year from uncle sam. but that could vanish december 31st when the country hits the fiscal cliff. to caldera, that's the short-run risk. in the long run, he sees a clear, if not political pristine, path to more reliance on wind power. >> i think we'll eventually get to the point where we see a need for technologies that can provide energy, essentially forever, with minimal environmental cost. >> a final check on the markets when we return after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] 'tis the season to discover the kid in al
, that is why we are not getting some of the movement which is movement on the fiscal cliff front or the economic directly saying the upside is warranted. david: they were thinking of apple as utility, something where people were betting on one of the reasons it has come down a lot because a lot of the margin bets made on apple are now disallowed because it is no longer a sure thing. it's what is happening to apple significant for all? >> what i would say is apple is the stock to watch tomorrow.3 there could be some considerations were they move their experiments but the long and short of it is tomorrow apple has closed on its lows. this could be an opportunity, this washed out all of those you just discussed that were leveraged, washing those out and could see tomorrow institutions come in because they would have to be helped. david: nothing is a sure thing. we learned that housing and now with apple. liz: he says watch for a bounce tomorrow, we will see if he is right. david: let's bring in the market panel. he is active etf comanager and the capital market research director. go
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're going to have the issues of the fiscal cliff. i would say for something like mcdonald's, though, it does historically trade with a staple and could benefit from consumer tradedown. i would be less concerned about it specifically for that company. but you are right, we do continue to see declining trends in cruise, and las vegas gambling, and other segments we do cover. >> specifically on the restaurants, it was raised by the journal over the weekend, is there a structural change now, having gone throthe recession about the willingness of people to pay for this sort of luxury? do you think that we've had a substantial change that could last for years? >> i think people have better options. they have anything from the salad bar at whole foods. they can trade up, they can trade down. they have very good options for eating at home. i think the problem is, that the pie isn't growing that much. you have about a half a point of population growth. and you have expansion in all types of food categories. that competes for people's dollars. you're right, people are pretty value sensitive and they'r
sandy and anxiety over the fiscal cliff affecting job growth. adp showing the private sector created 115,000 positions last month. the expectation was about 125,000. it comes ahead of friday's key employment report and to talk about that and more, our senior economics reporter steve leisman joins us from washington. steve, we'll talk about your interview with secretary geithner in a moment but let's talk about those economic numbers. what about today's, what about friday's? >> before i get to the adp number, i have new information i've been able to report on the way down here from new york. that is, be prepared on friday for potentially, especially in the household survey that creates the unemployment number. be prepared for potentially big sandy effects. let me tell you why. we had an early thanksgiving this year. 11/22. the 22nd of the month. what happens on those kind of years is that the bls moves back the survey week from the 12th which is the normal survey week in this case, to the 5th. what was the fifth? it was the week that really the worst effects of sandy in terms of people no
. wall street is very, very nervouu about the future even if we don't hit the fiscal cliff. wall street sort of fantasy would be to impose simpson-bowles. you do a radical change, close all the loopholes, that is probably not going to happen. we're lucky if we get some sort of a deal to get us beyond the fiscal cliff and budget cuts kick in. even take that out of it, they are just increasingly pessimistic about the future. tracy: you have dodd-frank coming, regulations for which you have to appear. >> morgan stanley is not cutting medicare, that is what happens with the fiscal cliff. liz: i think they took our comments from when citigroup led off people and said don't do that in december, we have to do it, and do it in november. >> he is a good guy. totally opposite, very rational, nice, smart guy. he does have a firm to run. and he has economic realities, giving you the economic realities of morgan stanley. i hear there could be cuts there as well. i don't think morgan stanley will go a deep as citigroup. i think they will do a little bit. we should also point out one other thing, cove
of months, a fiscal cliff or not, i think this market is setting itself up, clearly, at least three the index markets or the equities, particularly that something is going to get accomplished and actually that it's not going to be a bad solution. >> does that mean, michael, the fiscal cliff chatter for now will probably trump economic data? >> as well as it should be. and for those reasons, i think the economic data, though minuscule, has been slightly looking better as we get forward here. and i think that's one of the reasons why year starting to see the dollars come back into play with a little bit more strength and, once again, over at least the last three or four sessions, gold in particular is starting to set itself up with the base which is looking rather bullish again as we get more towards that 1730 target in the near term. >> talk about gold, again, highlighted its underperformance this year, but are we talking about a move that's dollar driven or are we talking about a move where we're starting to see strength in gold broadly speaking? >> i think the latter is probably on
to find something who sdn have aen opinion on the fiscal cliff. this weekend, the ahead of the imf said the united states is more vulnerable to its domestic trouble more than anything else happening in the eurozone. christine lagarde says a balanced approach is needed and she says don't kick the can down the road, which is rich coming from a european. >>> european trading the lower this morning. italy's prime minister mario monti, yes, the same one that is famous from all the anti-trust things back in the -- was that the '90s? >> the '90s, yeah. >> monti announcing he'll step down before his term ends. the decision comes after the party of sylvia berlusconi withdrew support for monti's government last week. berlusconi has indicated he will run for leadership again. cnbc's carolin roth will join us from italy with the latest in a few minutes. when i was over there, i had to have the -- all the political signs translated because there's a picture of monti sitting under a beach chair drinking a drink and all the text was send monti to the beach. they already didn't like him. >> he had very
? >> i am very confident that we will at birth the fiscal cliff. the only issue is how much of this will we get done. >> i am not at all confident, actually. just hearing what adam said does not make me any more confident. it is on schedule to rock itself and very, very soon. when i hear this kind of stuff that we are trying to push granny over the cliff, that is absolute garbage and that will not take a deal. we have to reduce the deficit. you have to do that by reforming medicare and medicaid. you have to deal with all of them. when i hear my democrat colleagues say maybe we will do something with medicare card ten years away, that will not work. connell: we will wrap it up for today. thank you to both of you. >> thank you. dagen: investors suffering from a little fiscal cliff fatigue. kevin flanagan says do not look away. this could look really ugly. hey, kevin. looking at the yield on the ten year period about 1.65%. it does not look like there has been any serious market reaction . what could happen if we get to this deadline and nothing happens? >> the treasury market
you. the meltdown that was sure to begin. my next guest says the fiscal cliff is simply y2k fear. joining me now is a chief investment officer. we have had other people talk about it similar to y2k. why do you feel that it is not something to worry about right now, from an investor standpoint. >> first, i think the deal is already settled in was settled a while back. everyone who has negotiated knows that is what goes on. from an investor point of view, i think you will find that the tax rates don't go crazy like everyone thinks. the dividend taxes, for example, you will have 23.5%. all of these captains of industries, what happens when it turned and looked around and say it really was not such a big thing. what will they do? will they go away from dividends and not have anything that has interest. liz: even with a potentially higher tax rate, you are still getting more than 1.6% or 1.7%. >> exactly. look at how many times in history we have had higher dividend taxes. the rate will hit around 20%. it could go as high as 36 or 39%. with that said, 200 companies, roughly, are accel
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in washington. speak up for the fiscal cliff is part of the half trillion dollars in cuts to the pentagon. the defense has been saying we will not plan for sequestration's because they don't want to be cautious because it is like a gun to the head. they're now looking into planning for this because we are getting pretty late, and that may become a reality. back to you. melissa: rich edson, thank you so much. lori: let's continue this discussion. it is going to happen, it is exactly what the democrats want. according to scott hodge of the tax foundation. what are some alternatives to raising revenue? joining me with some ideas. to your point, you're written quite extensively on this topic. it seems the economy is poised to fall off the cliff and that's what the democrats and the president wants to happen. >> they want to allow all the bush tax cuts to expire. it happens naturally automatically. they don't even have to vote for it. in january we had to lower taxes for everybody. getting it very simply. lori: a lot of people are concerned. if we do go over the cliff, there's no resolution fo
this discussion, this economy gets to the fiscal cliff and the more american jobs are placed in recession. >> if something goes wrong, the fed has no arrows left in its quiver. >> we're checking our lists as the "squawk on the street" countdown to christmas continues. ho, ho, ho. ♪ >> andrew ross sorkin is bringing lloyd blankfein on stage. let's take a look. here's goldman sachs ceo lloyd blankfein. >> a number of people have touched on the fiscal cliff, and i wanted to start with that, but in a different way with you this morning, in that you have been active in washington over the past couple of weeks and all this. you've been on the phone with the white house. i've read reports that you were on the phone with the white house earlier this week. just if you could, take us behind the scenes. what goes on on these conference calls with the business community? sort of what do you see actually happening right now? >> i don't want to oversell this. i was on a couple of conference calls that the white house had with myself and other people who participated in meetings at the white house. i
. and -- >> but for everybody to -- to do that, to say we have to go over this fiscal cliff -- >> we don't have to -- >> in order so that everybody -- >> you could have legislation ready to introduce that week. >> congressman hensarling, before you go, something like that, would -- i mean i hear this from both sides, that if we just go over the president would introduce this legislation to lower rates, republicans who have signed grover norquist's pledge would be able to go along with that and say this is what we did. i didn't vote to raise taxes, i voted to lower taxes. is that the most likely scenario? >> makes sense? >> i'm not a las vegas bookie so i'm not going to say what is most likely scenario. i don't know and my crystal ball is a little fuzzy. again all this talk of taxes is marginally irrelevant. you give the president all of the tax increases that he has requested it's roughly about 23% of his ten-year spending budget. even 1.6 trillion. at most is maybe, 22%, 23%. the additional -- >> but going over that cliff, that's real money. and by the way, that's not that revenue thing. that'
a business network, i have to ask you, you're a businessman. does this fiscal cliff stuff worry you and the prospect of higher taxes worry you? what do you think? >> i think it worries all of us, doesn't it? i'm one that has faith. i believe something is going to happen. i believe we'll have a deal before it gets over the cliff personally. i'm an optimist. >> you're in farming. you have a guesthouse on your land down in georgia. what do you your customers tell you about the state of the economy? >> we get varying points of view from the discussions we have at the plantation. again, i think the majority of folks that come and, you know, have discussions of all types, especially when it gets to the economy, they are optimists and they feel like the country is getting better, albeit more slowly than we would all like. but i think the overall feeling is that it's going to be okay. just take a deep breath, move forward. >> let's turn to music, shall we, steve, come on. >> if you don't know one of the things he's famous for, rolling stones, 1982 but the most classic piano solo in the hist
future sglp one of the things that occurs to me as we pivot to discussing the fiscal cliff, in this country the thing we have lacked for 25 years, 30 years, is income growth. the result it seems to me is that we have substituted the growth of debt for the lack of income growth. what would you say we need to do to reduce the debt growth and increase income growth? >> we need wages that grow as fast as inflation or faster than inflation. >> how do you get that? >> well, it is difficult. i think we've got to stop the outsourcing of good paying manufacturing jobs and rebuild those kind of industries. many of them were in urban communities that gave people who may not have had a college education a chance with a good skill to earn a good living. take care of their family. we've seen -- really we've lost so many of those jobs by outsourcing. it was good news this week -- >> when you hear apple saying they're going to build a factory -- >> congrats to apple and i hope apple will do more and more companies will do more to ensure jobs as opposed to offshore jobs. >> yet phil lebeau
the fiscal cliff at the end of the year, we are in for a big stock market. i like that. chief investment officer joins us now. thanks, hitting the market actually believes we will come to a deal. >> absolutely. you get this sense it doesn't really wants to sell off even with all this uncertainty with both sides going back and forth, are we talking, are we not talking. the market seems to be creeping higher, seems to be seen through what is traditional political rhetoric and grandstanding and recognizing a deal will be done. ashley: it is one thing to get a deal, one other thing to get a bad one. even though we did not follow the cliff, we are stuck with a lot of bad decisions. >> even in a bad deal, tracy, one thing we can say is certainty will replace uncertainty. that is a big headwind for this economy. all of this uncertainty throughout the second half of this year, all of 2012 will be replaced with certainty and that should unleash pent-up demand when we see it in the construction, in capital spending, housing improving, certainty replacing uncertainty will be a big theme in 2013. tr
about something else. >> couldn't the sandy weakness then be followed by fiscal cliff worry weakness. even if we don't go over the cliff. we could go above 8% and all of a sudden -- >> we could. and i'm expecting over 8% today or around 8% or more. and just to explain, there's a couple things going on. it's an earlier thanksgiving. so as i understand it, the bls moved survey week backwards to 11/5 from 111/12. that means it further back into the teeth of sandy's effects. all the peek out ople out of wo couldn't find work if they were looking for it. however the earlier thanksgiving also means retailers hire earlier. so you have these two forces. and zandi said there was two things, plus 86 from sandy, minus 60 or 70 because you have a seasonal effect of earlier retailers. on the jobs number. on the jobs number. so these offset? hiring for retail means a positive. less hiring for -- because of sandy is a negative. could they offset? >> there has to be some netting. there are special effects in the reports you're trying to sort out. and there's also the question of what the the economy
geithner says the white house is ready to go over the fiscal cliff if tax rates on the wealthiest don't rise. investors looking for ecb guidance when draghi announces the bank decision later today. and stocks in europe are trading higher. aerospace giant has unveiled its ownership restructuring plans. apple and samsung are heading back to a californian courtroom today to renew their dispute. hearing starts at 4:30 eastern. samsung wants the court to toss out a jury verdict for patent infringement. apple wants to block some sales of samsung smartphones in the united states. apple suffered its worst day in four years and may be creediedi ground in the market. 417 companies in the s&p have a market cap below $35 billion. in frankfurt right now, apple stock down 3%. i'm afraid more bad news, as well, coming out of china. because apparently apple's rang in china smartphone market which will become the largest this year is down two spots to number six in the third quarter. suffering tough competition from chinese brands. this is according to idc. they say the u.s. market share in china unde
anything done. the fiscal cliff hits. the arguments i just pa about the withholding tables and cutting spending, are not generally talked about. a lot of people deny they can be done. we're confident they can. so the question then becomes what's the impact, where is the impact. and the impact is equity markets end of next week will say these guys aren't going to get it done, we won't have a deal january 1, everything falls apart, that's assuming of course we all get past december 21st. >> so basically week and counting before you think the equity market really drops significantly? >> if we do get a deal done do, we just maintain the 2% that we're stuck in with the high unemployment and not go down? or does it actually allow us to start growing again? is anybody talking growth? >> we're talking growth. >> is it possible to ever get back to that in this environment? >> it is. you have a lot of problems with the piece. >> do you briyou believe if you rote deficit -- two different ways. you either keep the government that you have and pay for it by raising taxes, or you kind of leave taxes
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